Academic Software

[AUDITBOY]

This is legal software correct?

[darrel]

Post by AUDITBOY
This is legal software correct?

It's legal as long as you meet the requirements ELUA

-Darrel

[jigme]

Post by AUDITBOY
This is legal software correct?

if you qualify for an academic licence, yes.

cheers,
jigme

[Rob]

legal as long as you do not profit from it's use.

Post by jigme

Post by AUDITBOY
This is legal software correct?

if you qualify for an academic licence, yes.
cheers,
jigme

[P@tty Ayers]

Post by AUDITBOY
This is legal software correct?

If it's not used for any commercial use.

[AUDITBOY]

Thank you both for your help and wisdom.

Have a good day.

[Alan]

another issue with legal academic versions of mm software- there is little
to no upgrade path to a newer version.

Post by AUDITBOY
Thank you both for your help and wisdom.
Have a good day.

[David Powers]

Post by Alan
another issue with legal academic versions of mm software- there is little
to no upgrade path to a newer version.

That's true, but I also subscribe to the Japanese version of the
Macromedia Edge newsletter. In Japan, at least, you can now upgrade from
the academic version. I'm not sure whether this is a time-limited offer,
because I've already ditched the email, but it struck me as being a
significant change of policy, if only in one market.

Now, if only Macromedia could bring the prices it charges in Europe into
line with the US (and it's not just the VAT that accounts for the huge
disparity in prices).

[P@tty Ayers]

That's new, at least in the past few years. I had an academic version back
in the day, and there was no upgrade option at all.
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You can do that here, too, David.
But you cannot upgrade Academic 6.1 to Academic 7.0.1 in either locale.
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Post by David Powers

Post by Alan
another issue with legal academic versions of mm software- there is little
to no upgrade path to a newer version.

That's true, but I also subscribe to the Japanese version of the
Macromedia Edge newsletter. In Japan, at least, you can now upgrade from
the academic version. I'm not sure whether this is a time-limited offer,
because I've already ditched the email, but it struck me as being a
significant change of policy, if only in one market.
Now, if only Macromedia could bring the prices it charges in Europe into
line with the US (and it's not just the VAT that accounts for the huge
disparity in prices).
--
David Powers
Author, "Foundation PHP 5 for Flash" (friends of ED)
Co-author "PHP Web Development with DW MX 2004" (Apress)
http://computerbookshelf.com

[Murray *TMM*]

You can upgrade an academic license to a commercial license by paying the
difference in price. You cannot upgrade the software version of an academic
package, however.
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Post by ***@tty Ayers
That's new, at least in the past few years. I had an academic version back
in the day, and there was no upgrade option at all.
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You can do that here, too, David.
But you cannot upgrade Academic 6.1 to Academic 7.0.1 in either locale.
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Post by David Powers

Post by Alan
another issue with legal academic versions of mm software- there is little
to no upgrade path to a newer version.

That's true, but I also subscribe to the Japanese version of the
Macromedia Edge newsletter. In Japan, at least, you can now upgrade from
the academic version. I'm not sure whether this is a time-limited offer,
because I've already ditched the email, but it struck me as being a
significant change of policy, if only in one market.
Now, if only Macromedia could bring the prices it charges in Europe into
line with the US (and it's not just the VAT that accounts for the huge
disparity in prices).
--
David Powers
Author, "Foundation PHP 5 for Flash" (friends of ED)
Co-author "PHP Web Development with DW MX 2004" (Apress)
http://computerbookshelf.com

[P@tty Ayers]

Post by Murray *TMM*
You can upgrade an academic license to a commercial license by paying the
difference in price. You cannot upgrade the software version of an
academic package, however.

I see; I was referring to version upgrades.

[Murray *TMM*]

Yes - as far as I know, version upgrades have never been, nor are they
currently available in any region on Academic licensed software from
Macromedia.
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Post by ***@tty Ayers

Post by Murray *TMM*
You can upgrade an academic license to a commercial license by paying the
difference in price. You cannot upgrade the software version of an
academic package, however.

I see; I was referring to version upgrades.
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[David Powers]

Post by Murray *TMM*
Yes - as far as I know, version upgrades have never been, nor are they
currently available in any region on Academic licensed software from
Macromedia.

They are now - in Japan. I've just been to the Macromedia Japanese site,
and it was the subject of the Flash "splash" at the top of the page.
Following the link led to this page (in Japanese, of course):

http://www.macromedia.com/jp/software/upgrade/ug_fma.html

It says in part (my translation): "From 22 February 2005, Macromedia's
upgrade policy has been amended. The academic version from the two
previous releases now qualifies for upgrade to the commercial version.
Thanks to the introduction of this upgrade path from the academic
version to the commercial version, users will no longer have to buy a
full copy upon graduation, but will be able to create web content for
commercial purposes as soon as they buy the upgrade version."

DISCLAIMER: the preceding paragraph is an unofficial translation of the
Macromedia Japanese website, and applies only to the *Japanese version*
of MM software.

The upgrade prices offered to owners of academic versions are exactly
the same as for commercial upgrades. For example, an upgrade from the
academic version of Studio MX to Studio MX 2004 with Flash Pro is 63,000
yen, the same price paid for a commercial upgrade. This works out at
approximately $605 (the current US price for a commercial upgrade from
Studio MX to MX 2004 with Flash Pro is $499).

As I said before, when I complained about the price discrepancy in the
UK, Macromedia's answer was that prices are set according to local
market conditions. The decision to offer upgrades from previous academic
versions may be limited to the Japanese market, but anyone who planning
to move from the academic version to a commercial one might think about
getting in touch with MM to see if a similar change is planned in their
market. The timing of the announcement in Japan was almost certainly
determined by the fact that the academic year ends in March, so the
change was made just in time for graduation.

[Murray *TMM*]

Thanks for the whole text of that story. This *is* new.
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Post by David Powers
They are now - in Japan. I've just been to the Macromedia Japanese site,
and it was the subject of the Flash "splash" at the top of the page.
http://www.macromedia.com/jp/software/upgrade/ug_fma.html
It says in part (my translation): "From 22 February 2005, Macromedia's
upgrade policy has been amended. The academic version from the two
previous releases now qualifies for upgrade to the commercial version.
Thanks to the introduction of this upgrade path from the academic version
to the commercial version, users will no longer have to buy a full copy
upon graduation, but will be able to create web content for commercial
purposes as soon as they buy the upgrade version."
DISCLAIMER: the preceding paragraph is an unofficial translation of the
Macromedia Japanese website, and applies only to the *Japanese version* of
MM software.

[Joe Makowiec]

Post by Murray *TMM*
Thanks for the whole text of that story. This *is* new.

Actually, I had v4 non-profit (USA), and I was able to upgrade to v6
commercial at the upgrade price.

[Murray *TMM*]

But non-profit is NOT educational, right?
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On Thu 17 Mar 2005 06:33:26a, Murray *TMM* wrote in

Post by Murray *TMM*
Thanks for the whole text of that story. This *is* new.

Actually, I had v4 non-profit (USA), and I was able to upgrade to v6
commercial at the upgrade price.

[Joe Makowiec]

Post by Murray *TMM*
But non-profit is NOT educational, right?

True, but it was only a couple of bucks more, and it had the same license
restrictions.

[Murray *TMM*]

You can do that here, too, David.

But you cannot upgrade Academic 6.1 to Academic 7.0.1 in either locale.
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Post by David Powers

Post by Alan
another issue with legal academic versions of mm software- there is little
to no upgrade path to a newer version.

That's true, but I also subscribe to the Japanese version of the
Macromedia Edge newsletter. In Japan, at least, you can now upgrade from
the academic version. I'm not sure whether this is a time-limited offer,
because I've already ditched the email, but it struck me as being a
significant change of policy, if only in one market.
Now, if only Macromedia could bring the prices it charges in Europe into
line with the US (and it's not just the VAT that accounts for the huge
disparity in prices).
--
David Powers
Author, "Foundation PHP 5 for Flash" (friends of ED)
Co-author "PHP Web Development with DW MX 2004" (Apress)
http://computerbookshelf.com